The First Project?

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The Big Mystery
Let’s all unite to try to figure out the first few projects on scratch. We all know the first project but is there more. 103 projects don’t just disappear. As a team just try to explore and figure out just what these 103 earlier projects are. With master programmers we will try to find these projects hidden in the Scratch website. Exploring both the console and all the website, we need your assistance, please reply with info. Note to scratch team: We will not break any of the scratch guidelines or hack into servers.

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The bolder links have the most evidence to prove them.
1 Copy Copy of the first alleged first scratch project (accessed on turbowarp).
1 Archive of the second alleged first scratch project.
1 Copy of the second alleged first scratch project
2 Copy of the first alleged second scratch project.
2 Archive Archive of the first alleged second scratch project.
104 This is the first shared scratch project.

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In the old versions of the TurboWarp website, you could visit unshared projects, many people (including me) checked projects/1 and took us to this.

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alboxer2000 wrote:
In the old versions of the TurboWarp website, you could visit unshared projects, many people (including me) checked projects/1 and took us to this.

Thanks, but turbowarp and forkforus don’t allow it anymore. Maybe some older scratchers (i am still old nearly 4 years) have some recount

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It is it believed that this is actually the first project (An archive of the first project, that is), as projects/1 was overwritten many times.

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jale3ms

starlightsparker wrote:
It is it believed that this is actually the first project (An archive of the first project, that is), as projects/1 was overwritten many times.

Ok, many people believe the other one as well, will add them both.

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starlightsparker

This seems to be the second project.
May someone run it via this technique?;

CST1229 wrote:
Download the .sb using the link in the archived page and open it in some 0.x/1.0 version (you'll probably just have to try a bunch of versions).

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CST1229

starlightsparker wrote:
(#6)
This seems to be the second project.
Although ,I am unsure on how to run it. Much appreciated if someone helps.

Download the .sb using the link in the archived page and open it in some 0.x/1.0 version (you'll probably just have to try a bunch of versions).

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CST1229 wrote:
Download the .sb using the link in the archived page and open it in some 0.x/1.0 version (you'll probably just have to try a bunch of versions).

Thank you, I personally do not want to do that, but I will add it to my post because someone else may.

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jale3ms

CST1229 wrote:
starlightsparker wrote:
(#6)
This seems to be the second project.
Although ,I am unsure on how to run it. Much appreciated if someone helps.
Download the .sb using the link in the archived page and open it in some 0.x/1.0 version (you'll probably just have to try a bunch of versions).

We have it now copied my a generous Scratcher. Check the list

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jale3ms wrote:
alboxer2000 wrote:
In the old versions of the TurboWarp website, you could visit unshared projects, many people (including me) checked projects/1 and took us to this.

Thanks, but turbowarp and forkforus don’t allow it anymore. Maybe some older scratchers (i am still old nearly 4 years) have some recount

It's not that Turbowarp and other mods don't allow it (or ever did)- it's that it was a bug in Scratch's API itself which was later fixed.

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jale3ms

BigNate469 wrote:
jale3ms wrote:
alboxer2000 wrote:
In the old versions of the TurboWarp website, you could visit unshared projects, many people (including me) checked projects/1 and took us to this.

Thanks, but turbowarp and forkforus don’t allow it anymore. Maybe some older scratchers (i am still old nearly 4 years) have some recount
It's not that Turbowarp and other mods don't allow it (or ever did)- it's that it was a bug in Scratch's API itself which was later fixed.

Yep I know. But still some are accessible via web archives.

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MineTurte

Can't you just change the ID of a project to 1 or 0 and go to the first project??

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MineTurte wrote:
Can't you just change the ID of a project to 1 or 0 and go to the first project??

They're unshared, so they're not viewable, but before 2023 with TurboWarp, you could visit projects that were unshared, now, you can't anymore, cause of legal issues (I think)

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CST1229

alboxer2000 wrote:
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They're unshared, so they're not viewable, but before 2023 with TurboWarp, you could visit projects that were unshared, now, you can't anymore, cause of legal issues (I think)

it was a change done by the scratch team mainly because unshared projects are supposed to be, well, unshared, and not public
see also: https://docs.turbowarp.org/unshared-projects

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A quick repost of something I discussed with the original poster of this topic:

me earlier wrote:
An old archived version of the beta site shows that there were some projects shared before Scratch was even released: beta site

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medians

None of those are the first project technically, the “first alleged first project” was a test project because vector didn't exist until 2.0, and the glide () secs to () block didn't exist until 3.0. The 2nd project from the top on your list uses the say nothing block, which didn't exist at first in 0.x.

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medians wrote:
None of those are the first project technically, the “first alleged first project” was a test project because vector didn't exist until 2.0, and the glide () secs to () block didn't exist until 3.0. The 2nd project from the top on your list uses the say nothing block, which didn't exist at first in 0.x.

That is true, but it still has the id of 1 and 2, but we figured out the first alleged first scratch project probably is not true but the second alleged first scratch project is the one to click for id 1

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medians

jale3ms wrote:
medians wrote:
None of those are the first project technically, the “first alleged first project” was a test project because vector didn't exist until 2.0, and the glide () secs to () block didn't exist until 3.0. The 2nd project from the top on your list uses the say nothing block, which didn't exist at first in 0.x.

That is true, but it still has the id of 1 and 2, but we figured out the first alleged first scratch project probably is not true but the second alleged first scratch project is the one to click for id 1

Well yea, but it's not the first or second project, and the first alleged first scratch project makes no sense

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medians: I knew it would happen. I was the one who started it last year.
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medians wrote:
jale3ms wrote:
medians wrote:
None of those are the first project technically, the “first alleged first project” was a test project because vector didn't exist until 2.0, and the glide () secs to () block didn't exist until 3.0. The 2nd project from the top on your list uses the say nothing block, which didn't exist at first in 0.x.

That is true, but it still has the id of 1 and 2, but we figured out the first alleged first scratch project probably is not true but the second alleged first scratch project is the one to click for id 1
Well yea, but it's not the first or second project, and the first alleged first scratch project makes no sense

I know but if there is even the tiniest bit of proof it goes there that’s why it is called alleged

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