How do I convert SB3 to BOOTABLE ISO?

NexusSfan

I want to convert a Scratch OS that I am making into a real ISO file so my PC can boot into the Scratch OS.
Some other people wanted to do it too, but the methods were to make a unbootable ISO:

z10r wrote:
I have created some projects that I would like to create an ISO form. How do I do this?

4096bits replied:

4096bits wrote:
1. Go here.
2. Click “Environment Options”, then click “None (Plain HTML)” and change it to “NW.js (Windows/Linux)”.
3. Here, you can edit the NW.js package.json to change the settings of the result application.
4. Click “Package Project”.
5. Download NW.js (the normal version)
6. Extract the contents to a folder.
7. Move the package.nw file to the folder with the NW.js contents.
8. At this point, you can install an ISO creator like ImgBurn (as long as you avoid adware requests), then package up the contents of the NW.js folder.
9. When you want to execute the project, mount the ISO, then start the nw.exe file.

I don't think there is a way.
Is there a way? If there is, please tell me.

Sadly, 4096bits is no longer on the site.
You will be remembered as the start of this project.

Last edited by NexusSfan (Oct. 25, 2023 22:50:57)

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Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

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this probably fits better in advanced topics. I’ll report it to be moved there and if that isn’t right it can be moved back.

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NexusSfan

How do I move topics? I'm new to the forums.

Last edited by NexusSfan (Oct. 31, 2021 02:23:09)

im a controversial man

Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

sharkode

NexusSfan wrote:
How do I move topics? I'm new to the forums.

Report the top post and say “Move to advanced topics”

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NexusSfan

sharkode wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
How do I move topics? I'm new to the forums.
Report the top post and say “Move to advanced topics”

OK, thanks!

im a controversial man

Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

imfh

The method described by @4096bits will not allow you to boot your computer with a Scratch project. The described steps convert a Scratch project into a .exe file (which you can double click to run), and then packages the exe file into an non-bootable ISO file. The created ISO file is kind of like a zip file; you can open it and see the files saved in it.

You cannot convert a SB3 file into a bootable ISO file. You need to have an actual operating system to run the Scratch project. It would be possible to have a real operating system in an ISO file which automatically runs the Scratch project, but it is not possible to have a Scratch project be the operating system itself.

When an operating system runs on your computer, it gets raw access to the hardware. Instead of "set [my variable] to (5)," the operating system needs to find an empty space in memory to save some data. The operating system also needs to know how to stuff like sending binary codes to the display to make it show an image.

Although you can't make a true operating system with Scratch, it would possible to have a real operating system start up and instantly run the Scratch project.

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god286

imfh wrote:
The method described by @4096bits will not allow you to boot your computer with a Scratch project. The described steps convert a Scratch project into a .exe file (which you can double click to run), and then packages the exe file into an non-bootable ISO file. The created ISO file is kind of like a zip file; you can open it and see the files saved in it.

You cannot convert a SB3 file into a bootable ISO file. You need to have an actual operating system to run the Scratch project. It would be possible to have a real operating system in an ISO file which automatically runs the Scratch project, but it is not possible to have a Scratch project be the operating system itself.

When an operating system runs on your computer, it gets raw access to the hardware. Instead of "set [my variable] to (5)," the operating system needs to find an empty space in memory to save some data. The operating system also needs to know how to stuff like sending binary codes to the display to make it show an image.

Although you can't make a true operating system with Scratch, it would possible to have a real operating system start up and instantly run the Scratch project.

For something lightweight maybe just a really small Linux installation maybe? Then have something that supports HTML and CSS and JS (maybe chromium would do) and get that to work.

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imfh

I should clarify that although you can't use Scratch to make a full OS, it is possible to use Scratch to the part of the OS often known as the “Desktop Window Manager,” which handles the graphical interface. There are limitations, however, which is to be expected using Scratch.

god286 wrote:
For something lightweight maybe just a really small Linux installation maybe? Then have something that supports HTML and CSS and JS (maybe chromium would do) and get that to work.

It is possible to make chromium automatically start up in full screen on a fullscreen project page.

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MagicCrayon9342

you could always just learn C, write a web browser, a small rendering engine. Write the base system in C, the UI in HTML/CSS/JS.

NexusSfan

Or you can create an EXE file that will make the Scratch file run at startup and kill “explorer.exe”

im a controversial man

Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

TheSmartGuy1234

1. get Linux source code 2. get scratch desktop 3. modify it to run scratch projects with scratch desktop 4. make it an operating system 5. put it on an iso and you are done!

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TWTG93

It's impossable with todays tech.

I'm a programmer ( NodeJS Python3 HTML and PHP )

I also make websites i guess.

MagicCrayon9342

TheSmartGuy1234 wrote:
1. get Linux source code 2. get scratch desktop 3. modify it to run scratch projects with scratch desktop 4. make it an operating system 5. put it on an iso and you are done!

It's actually.
1. Get Linux Source Code
2. Wait 20 years for it to download
3. Wait 5 years for it to compile, and hope the potato batteries powering your computer don't fry.

NexusSfan

Well, I did find out a way, go to https://packager.turbowarp.org/ and package https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxy.canberra.edu.au/projects/582009693 as an EXE, extract it into a folder, then make it run at startup and kill explorer.exe too!
Then reboot. Once you log in, It will only show the EXE.

(⚠️ I do not have a Windows OS, so I'm not sure if this works. ⚠️)
(Tip: Remember to kill explorer.exe at startup)
(Also, remember to SYMLINK the exe to the exe in folder where you extracted the zip)

im a controversial man

Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

PlNG_

You can put a SB3 file on a ISO, but it wont boot. ISO files are just disc files, and putting something on them doesn't make them actually bootable.

MagicCrayon9342

Let's make ScratchOS
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From scratch not Scratch

Last edited by MagicCrayon9342 (Dec. 30, 2021 19:19:48)

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god286 wrote:
imfh wrote:
The method described by @4096bits will not allow you to boot your computer with a Scratch project. The described steps convert a Scratch project into a .exe file (which you can double click to run), and then packages the exe file into an non-bootable ISO file. The created ISO file is kind of like a zip file; you can open it and see the files saved in it.

You cannot convert a SB3 file into a bootable ISO file. You need to have an actual operating system to run the Scratch project. It would be possible to have a real operating system in an ISO file which automatically runs the Scratch project, but it is not possible to have a Scratch project be the operating system itself.

When an operating system runs on your computer, it gets raw access to the hardware. Instead of "set [my variable] to (5)," the operating system needs to find an empty space in memory to save some data. The operating system also needs to know how to stuff like sending binary codes to the display to make it show an image.

Although you can't make a true operating system with Scratch, it would possible to have a real operating system start up and instantly run the Scratch project.
For something lightweight maybe just a really small Linux installation maybe? Then have something that supports HTML and CSS and JS (maybe chromium would do) and get that to work.

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NexusSfan

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Let's make ScratchOS
https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
From scratch not Scratch

One small problem; building from source doesn't work for me.
Also, I use a Linux Mint as my OS.

im a controversial man

Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

MagicCrayon9342

NexusSfan wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Let's make ScratchOS
https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
From scratch not Scratch
One small problem; building from source doesn't work for me.
Also, I use a Linux Mint as my OS.

I mean building an entire OS from source is no easy task. Especially on lower end hardware it could take ages.

NexusSfan

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Let's make ScratchOS
https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
From scratch not Scratch
One small problem; building from source doesn't work for me.
Also, I use a Linux Mint as my OS.
I mean building an entire OS from source is no easy task. Especially on lower end hardware it could take ages.

True, I just need the book.
Or I could use real Linux source https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/

Last edited by NexusSfan (Dec. 31, 2021 19:31:37)

im a controversial man

Current progress on SB3 to ISO convertion:
—{Idea}—{Plan}—{Creation}—{Changes}—{Finalization}—{Completed}

pro project which is better than qlack os

benji123good wrote:
NexusSfan wrote:
benji123good wrote:
guys lets just switch to qlack os
no thats cringe os
Xd

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