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safiyah-dal
Scratcher
22 posts

A chance for everyone to get featured

I have seen a lot of great scratchers who have thousands of followers, and a lot of great scratchers who do not have many, and some in between.

So, I was thinking: Why not, every three days, a project of every single scratcher get featured?

I know, a lot of people will be asking to get featured, and it will get a lot of comments. But I could make a studio, an every day, 10 or more projects could get featured, and get changed every 3-4 days.

I just want it to be fair for everyone- a lot of great projects don't have a lot of views.

Please comment.

Last edited by safiyah-dal (Aug. 24, 2019 02:01:05)

safiyah-dal
Scratcher
22 posts

A chance for everyone to get featured

safiyah-dal wrote:

I have seen a lot of great scratchers who have thousands of followers, and a lot of great scratchers who do not have many, and some in between.

So, I was thinking: Why not, every three days, a project of every single scratcher get featured?

I know, a lot of people will be asking to get featured, and it will get a lot of comments. But I could make a studio, an every day, 10 or more projects could get featured, and get changed every 3-4 days.

I just want it to be fair for everyone- a lot of great projects don't have a lot of views.

Please comment.
Sheep_maker
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A chance for everyone to get featured

There's at least 45 208 101 users, and even though not all of them have shared projects, that's still quite a lot of users. Most Scratchers would probably have died by the time their project gets featured. Not all Scratchers speak English, so there's going to be a lot of confusion.

How will this select which project to feature? To select the projects with the least views or loves might select the Scratcher's worst project, which is undesirable. However, there's no use in featuring the Scratcher's most popular project. Also, some accounts intentionally have projects that aren't meant to be featured, while others only have high-effort projects all worthy of a feature.

This featured section would likely show a lot of low quality projects because not every user has a high effort project, so people would eventually ignore that section and relegate it to the level of the top remixed section.

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Za-Chary
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A chance for everyone to get featured

Sheep_maker wrote:

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Yeah, that's why I'm almost never a fan of these plans.

Let's assume that 100,000 Scratchers are active on Scratch (which is less than 1% of total registered users). Let's consider a system where 10 projects get featured a day, and then 10 more projects get featured the next day.

It would take a little over 27 years to get through all the projects in that rate.

That's what I believe to be the problem with this. Even if such a system were to be in place, I don't think it would be very effective. It might get more Scratchers featured than the current system, sure; but it wouldn't be anywhere close to getting all Scratchers featured.

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coder2045
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A chance for everyone to get featured

safiyah-dal wrote:

I have seen a lot of great scratchers who have thousands of followers, and a lot of great scratchers who do not have many, and some in between.

So, I was thinking: Why not, every three days, a project of every single scratcher get featured?

I know, a lot of people will be asking to get featured, and it will get a lot of comments. But I could make a studio, an every day, 10 or more projects could get featured, and get changed every 3-4 days.

I just want it to be fair for everyone- a lot of great projects don't have a lot of views.

Please comment.
No Support.
Nobody is going to scroll to the 30 000 000th Featured project. (or 19 871 335th, or 28 221 074th)

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coder2045
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Za-Chary wrote:

Sheep_maker wrote:

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Yeah, that's why I'm almost never a fan of these plans.

Let's assume that 100,000 Scratchers are active on Scratch (which is less than 1% of total registered users). Let's consider a system where 10 projects get featured a day, and then 10 more projects get featured the next day.

It would take a little over 27 years to get through all the projects in that rate.

That's what I believe to be the problem with this. Even if such a system were to be in place, I don't think it would be very effective. It might get more Scratchers featured than the current system, sure; but it wouldn't be anywhere close to getting all Scratchers featured.
That's assuming every Scratcher has 1 project, right?

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Nambaseking01
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A chance for everyone to get featured

No support.

1) Scratch is not about fame. I have seen a lot of people like you think that Scratch is mostly about fame and not to learn the programming language. The slogan of this website is “Imagine, Program, Share”. It does not involve anything about becoming famous and mostly trying to come out into the front page. I have been on Scratch for one year and three months. Have I ever been on the front page? No.

2) If you actually were to put a project from each and every Scratcher on Scratch on the front page, the site would probably crash. If you take a look at the Scratch statistics, there are currently 45,208,101 users registered on here. I am sure more than 30% of that crowd is inactive or already have 100+ followers, and more than 30% of that crowd has already been front paged, and if more than 60% of the crowd is not famous then we are left with two questions. How do we stop the already famous people from getting front paged for no reason and also get more than 20 million people on the front page without it crashing?

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safiyah-dal
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A chance for everyone to get featured

Za-Chary wrote:

Sheep_maker wrote:

-snip-
Yeah, that's why I'm almost never a fan of these plans.

Let's assume that 100,000 Scratchers are active on Scratch (which is less than 1% of total registered users). Let's consider a system where 10 projects get featured a day, and then 10 more projects get featured the next day.

It would take a little over 27 years to get through all the projects in that rate.

That's what I believe to be the problem with this. Even if such a system were to be in place, I don't think it would be very effective. It might get more Scratchers featured than the current system, sure; but it wouldn't be anywhere close to getting all Scratchers featured.

Thank you for reply. It would make sense about so many scratchers to go through. What if the scratch team only features projects for active scratchers, or people who still use scratch?
safiyah-dal
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22 posts

A chance for everyone to get featured

Nambaseking01 wrote:

No support.

1) Scratch is not about fame. I have seen a lot of people like you think that Scratch is mostly about fame and not to learn the programming language. The slogan of this website is “Imagine, Program, Share”. It does not involve anything about becoming famous and mostly trying to come out into the front page. I have been on Scratch for one year and three months. Have I ever been on the front page? No.

2) If you actually were to put a project from each and every Scratcher on Scratch on the front page, the site would probably crash. If you take a look at the Scratch statistics, there are currently 45,208,101 users registered on here. I am sure more than 30% of that crowd is inactive or already have 100+ followers, and more than 30% of that crowd has already been front paged, and if more than 60% of the crowd is not famous then we are left with two questions. How do we stop the already famous people from getting front paged for no reason and also get more than 20 million people on the front page without it crashing?

Yes, it makes sense… thank you for your reply.
Nambaseking01
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A chance for everyone to get featured

safiyah-dal wrote:

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Yes, it makes sense… thank you for your reply.

It is my pleasure.

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Za-Chary
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A chance for everyone to get featured

coder2045 wrote:

That's assuming every Scratcher has 1 project, right?
Yep, that's what I assumed. And since I restricted my analysis to 100,000 users out of the total 45,000,000 registered users, I think it's safe to say that each of those 100,000 have at least 1 project.

safiyah-dal wrote:

Thank you for reply. It would make sense about so many scratchers to go through. What if the scratch team only features projects for active scratchers, or people who still use scratch?
As I restricted my analysis to 100,000 users, I was assuming that every single one of those 100,000 users were active. I think this is a valid assumption; the Statistics page can certainly back me up on this.

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Paddle2See
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A chance for everyone to get featured

Getting people to view projects by lesser-known Scratchers is a big problem. But, as pointed out in previous posts, there is no way that featuring all Scratchers would ever work - there are just too many of them.

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