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co0lcr34t10ns
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RobotChickens wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2158)

RobotChickens wrote:

(#2157)

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2156)
I've finally updated the waitlist to include all the new emojis contributed since July.

I opted to omit the sweat droplets emoji—people generally seem to agree that, given its typical usage, it's probably not fit for Scratch.

@ilovestories' emojis were exported at twice the typical resolution due to a quirk in the Scratch editor. I've done the best I can to tweak these so they scale back down properly to 15x15, and removed some artifacts caused by converting from vector to bitmap.

You can find the waitlist here: https://github.com/CocoTheMii/fmji-waitlist
This is amazing! By the way, what happened to the recycling and chestnut emojis? Something happened with their previews on the GitHub.
Looks like I accidentally capitalized the filenames for those emojis. I use VS Code on Windows to edit the waitlist, and Windows is case-insensitive, so I never noticed the issue. Should be fixed now.

While I'm at it, I noticed that the Cubeupload link for the newspaper emoji is broken. For some reason, it can take a while for u.cubeupload.com links to start working—but it seems that this one never fixed itself. I've reuploaded the emoji, so we'll see if the problem goes away.

Also, I saw that someone contributed a “face with bags under eyes” emoji. I'd like to add it to the waitlist, but Forumoji needs to be updated to Emoji 16.0 first.
Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
Windows hasn't gotten 16 yet
greg1234567890f
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

co0lcr34t10ns wrote:

RobotChickens wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2158)

RobotChickens wrote:

(#2157)

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2156)
I've finally updated the waitlist to include all the new emojis contributed since July.

I opted to omit the sweat droplets emoji—people generally seem to agree that, given its typical usage, it's probably not fit for Scratch.

@ilovestories' emojis were exported at twice the typical resolution due to a quirk in the Scratch editor. I've done the best I can to tweak these so they scale back down properly to 15x15, and removed some artifacts caused by converting from vector to bitmap.

You can find the waitlist here: https://github.com/CocoTheMii/fmji-waitlist
This is amazing! By the way, what happened to the recycling and chestnut emojis? Something happened with their previews on the GitHub.
Looks like I accidentally capitalized the filenames for those emojis. I use VS Code on Windows to edit the waitlist, and Windows is case-insensitive, so I never noticed the issue. Should be fixed now.

While I'm at it, I noticed that the Cubeupload link for the newspaper emoji is broken. For some reason, it can take a while for u.cubeupload.com links to start working—but it seems that this one never fixed itself. I've reuploaded the emoji, so we'll see if the problem goes away.

Also, I saw that someone contributed a “face with bags under eyes” emoji. I'd like to add it to the waitlist, but Forumoji needs to be updated to Emoji 16.0 first.
Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
Windows hasn't gotten 16 yet
Linux has gotten it already (as all other, even future, unicode versions)
RobotChickens
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

greg1234567890f wrote:

(#2162)

co0lcr34t10ns wrote:

RobotChickens wrote:

Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
Windows hasn't gotten 16 yet
Linux has gotten it already (as all other, even future, unicode versions)
But which emoji set do you use? Twemoji, emojidex, Noto…
jmdzti_0-0
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

(U+1f4b8) Money with wings (REDONE)
greg1234567890f
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

RobotChickens wrote:

greg1234567890f wrote:

(#2162)

co0lcr34t10ns wrote:

RobotChickens wrote:

Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
Windows hasn't gotten 16 yet
Linux has gotten it already (as all other, even future, unicode versions)
But which emoji set do you use? Twemoji, emojidex, Noto…
I mean that it will always support new version if you will update fonts often

Last edited by greg1234567890f (Oct. 14, 2024 17:45:00)

RobotChickens
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

greg1234567890f wrote:

(#2165)

RobotChickens wrote:

greg1234567890f wrote:

(#2162)

co0lcr34t10ns wrote:

RobotChickens wrote:

Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
Windows hasn't gotten 16 yet
Linux has gotten it already (as all other, even future, unicode versions)
But which emoji set do you use? Twemoji, emojidex, Noto…
I mean that it will always support new version if you will update fonts othen
Ah yes. I've done something similar on Windows for Unicode 15!
Scratch137
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

RobotChickens wrote:

(#2160)

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2158)

RobotChickens wrote:

(#2157)

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2156)
I've finally updated the waitlist to include all the new emojis contributed since July.

I opted to omit the sweat droplets emoji—people generally seem to agree that, given its typical usage, it's probably not fit for Scratch.

@ilovestories' emojis were exported at twice the typical resolution due to a quirk in the Scratch editor. I've done the best I can to tweak these so they scale back down properly to 15x15, and removed some artifacts caused by converting from vector to bitmap.

You can find the waitlist here: https://github.com/CocoTheMii/fmji-waitlist
This is amazing! By the way, what happened to the recycling and chestnut emojis? Something happened with their previews on the GitHub.
Looks like I accidentally capitalized the filenames for those emojis. I use VS Code on Windows to edit the waitlist, and Windows is case-insensitive, so I never noticed the issue. Should be fixed now.

While I'm at it, I noticed that the Cubeupload link for the newspaper emoji is broken. For some reason, it can take a while for u.cubeupload.com links to start working—but it seems that this one never fixed itself. I've reuploaded the emoji, so we'll see if the problem goes away.

Also, I saw that someone contributed a “face with bags under eyes” emoji. I'd like to add it to the waitlist, but Forumoji needs to be updated to Emoji 16.0 first.
Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
I believe Google is the only provider that's updated their emojis thus far. They're usually pretty quick to release their new designs.

Apple hasn't released their designs yet—that likely won't happen until early next year.
RobotChickens
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2167)

RobotChickens wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

Also, I saw that someone contributed a “face with bags under eyes” emoji. I'd like to add it to the waitlist, but Forumoji needs to be updated to Emoji 16.0 first.
Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
I believe Google is the only provider that's updated their emojis thus far. They're usually pretty quick to release their new designs.

Apple hasn't released their designs yet—that likely won't happen until early next year.
So unless we switch, we'll be waiting around for twemoji to get updated… I remember last time we looked into this, the only barrier was the variance in naming scheme between the current set and Google's emojis. I'm sure that wouldn't be TOO hard to work around though. If someone tells me in general how to do it, I can make a PR!
Scratch137
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

RobotChickens wrote:

(#2168)

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2167)

RobotChickens wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

Also, I saw that someone contributed a “face with bags under eyes” emoji. I'd like to add it to the waitlist, but Forumoji needs to be updated to Emoji 16.0 first.
Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
I believe Google is the only provider that's updated their emojis thus far. They're usually pretty quick to release their new designs.

Apple hasn't released their designs yet—that likely won't happen until early next year.
So unless we switch, we'll be waiting around for twemoji to get updated… I remember last time we looked into this, the only barrier was the variance in naming scheme between the current set and Google's emojis. I'm sure that wouldn't be TOO hard to work around though. If someone tells me in general how to do it, I can make a PR!
You can check PR #70 to get an idea. We had to switch to a fork of Twemoji at one point because development on the official version had stopped.

There are a few differences in how Noto Emoji organizes its assets compared to Twemoji.
  • Every filename starts with “emoji_u”
  • The codepoint “FE0F” is omitted from all character sequences
Forumoji uses a normalized format for character sequences specifically to line up with Twemoji. In order to make it compatible with Noto without breaking compatibility with existing Cubeupload links, we need to use the Noto format for displaying placeholder emojis on the website, and the normalized format for everything else.

I decided to try this out with my own fork, and this is what I came up with. Took some experimenting, as you can see; I'm not very familiar with TypeScript.
It works, but it's pretty hacky. I'm not sure this is a desirable solution.

Last edited by Scratch137 (Oct. 15, 2024 03:25:00)

RobotChickens
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2169)

RobotChickens wrote:

(#2168)

Scratch137 wrote:

(#2167)

RobotChickens wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

Also, I saw that someone contributed a “face with bags under eyes” emoji. I'd like to add it to the waitlist, but Forumoji needs to be updated to Emoji 16.0 first.
Apple and Google are the only ones (that I know of) that have released an emoji set for Unicode 16! Google jumped the gun and was pretty early this year! (I still think switching to Google Noto Color emojis for the site would be an amazing idea!)
I believe Google is the only provider that's updated their emojis thus far. They're usually pretty quick to release their new designs.

Apple hasn't released their designs yet—that likely won't happen until early next year.
So unless we switch, we'll be waiting around for twemoji to get updated… I remember last time we looked into this, the only barrier was the variance in naming scheme between the current set and Google's emojis. I'm sure that wouldn't be TOO hard to work around though. If someone tells me in general how to do it, I can make a PR!
You can check PR #70 to get an idea. We had to switch to a fork of Twemoji at one point because development on the official version had stopped.

There are a few differences in how Noto Emoji organizes its assets compared to Twemoji.
  • Every filename starts with “emoji_u”
  • The codepoint “FE0F” is omitted from all character sequences
Forumoji uses a normalized format for character sequences specifically to line up with Twemoji. In order to make it compatible with Noto without breaking compatibility with existing Cubeupload links, we need to use the Noto format for displaying placeholder emojis on the website, and the normalized format for everything else.

I decided to try this out with my own fork, and this is what I came up with. Took some experimenting, as you can see; I'm not very familiar with TypeScript.
It works, but it's pretty hacky. I'm not sure this is a desirable solution.
Woah, that's impressive! You're certainly much better at typescript than me! XD
Scratch137
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

I've been working on updating some emojis, and making a few new ones.

New Emojis
  • Passport Control (U+1F6C2)
  • Safety Vest (U+1F9BA)
  • Film Frames (U+1F39E)
  • Hamsa (U+1FAAC)
Updated Emojis
  • Customs (U+1F6C3) by floppasyay
  • Locked (U+1F512) by Scratch137
  • Unlocked (U+1F513) by Scratch137
  • Locked with Key (U+1F510) by greg1234567890f
  • Locked with Pen (U+1F50F) by greg1234567890f
  • Key (U+1F511) by greg1234567890f
  • Window (U+1FA9F) by ZanterZlox

Last edited by Scratch137 (Oct. 18, 2024 00:11:46)

co0lcr34t10ns
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

Slot Machine U+1F3B0
Can someone do better? The numbers are unreadable
gplb2718
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

Some emoji that need to be redrawn:
Astronaut U+1F9D1 U+200D U+1F680: gender-neutral one has visor up on literally all platforms, and male and female (U+1F468 U+200D U+1F680 and U+1F469 U+200D U+1F680, respectively) just look goofy compared to the others in the People and Body category.
Detective U+1F575: Again, doesn't use the Man, Woman, or Person emoji for reference, and is actually done by the same person as the Astronaut emoji (floppasyay).
Pancakes U+1F95E: They look overcooked.
Steaming Bowl U+1F35C: Where is the steam, exactly?
Cheese Wedge U+1F9C0: The holes lack outlines.
Jar U+1FAD9: The outline does not show up on a dark background, maybe make it a light blue?
Medical Symbol U+2695: No outline
Musical Keyboard U+1F3B9: Wrong outline color, but it also takes up the whole emoji so not necessary
Telephone U+260E: No shading
Top Hat U+1F3A9: No shading + No easy distinction between ribbon and rest of hat
Magic Wand U+1FA84: No shading + Ends of wand are hard to see on a light background.
Ring Buoy U+1F6DF: No shading
There might be more, but this is as many as I could count. They do look good, they just don't fit in with the style of the rest of the emoji.
co0lcr34t10ns
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

I can redo med symbol sometime
Scratch137
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gplb2718 wrote:

(#2173)
Some emoji that need to be redrawn:

-snip-

There might be more, but this is as many as I could count. They do look good, they just don't fit in with the style of the rest of the emoji.
Here's what I've got so far.

Astronaut (U+1F9D1 200D 1F680)
Man Astronaut (U+1F468 200D 1F680)
Woman Astronaut (U+1F469 200D 1F680)

Detective (U+1F575)
Man Detective (U+1F575 FE0F 200D 2642 FE0F)
Woman Detective (U+1F575 FE0F 200D 2640 FE0F)

Pancakes (U+1F95E)
Cheese Wedge (U+1F9C0)

Musical Keyboard (U+1F3B9)

I will say, I don't think every emoji needs shading. Not every emoji benefits from it—especially black emojis, like Magic Wand.
notwait
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gplb2718 wrote:

Some emoji that need to be redrawn:
Astronaut U+1F9D1 U+200D U+1F680: gender-neutral one has visor up on literally all platforms, and male and female (U+1F468 U+200D U+1F680 and U+1F469 U+200D U+1F680, respectively) just look goofy compared to the others in the People and Body category.
Detective U+1F575: Again, doesn't use the Man, Woman, or Person emoji for reference, and is actually done by the same person as the Astronaut emoji (floppasyay).
Pancakes U+1F95E: They look overcooked.
Steaming Bowl U+1F35C: Where is the steam, exactly?
Cheese Wedge U+1F9C0: The holes lack outlines.
Jar U+1FAD9: The outline does not show up on a dark background, maybe make it a light blue?
Medical Symbol U+2695: No outline
Musical Keyboard U+1F3B9: Wrong outline color, but it also takes up the whole emoji so not necessary
Telephone U+260E: No shading
Top Hat U+1F3A9: No shading + No easy distinction between ribbon and rest of hat
Magic Wand U+1FA84: No shading + Ends of wand are hard to see on a light background.
Ring Buoy U+1F6DF: No shading
There might be more, but this is as many as I could count. They do look good, they just don't fit in with the style of the rest of the emoji.

Telephone has shading, but it's way too subtle.
gplb2718
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Scratch137 wrote:

-snip
I will say, I don't think every emoji needs shading. Not every emoji benefits from it—especially black emojis, like Magic Wand.
I agree with that statement but think that Magic Wand does need shading or at least an outline on the white ends of the wand.
Scratch137
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gplb2718 wrote:

(#2177)

Scratch137 wrote:

-snip
I will say, I don't think every emoji needs shading. Not every emoji benefits from it—especially black emojis, like Magic Wand.
I agree with that statement but think that Magic Wand does need shading or at least an outline on the white ends of the wand.
Agreed, the white ends are completely invisible in light mode.
The challenge is adding an outline without affecting the perceived width of the white ends.

Adding a black border to the white ends will either make them appear too small on a dark background, or too wide on a light background.
Come to think of it, maybe shading would fix this.
CST1229
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Forumoji: Forum-style unicode emojis!

could the forumoji website's search feature be brought back? (iirc it existed at one point)
bluemule64
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Does the emojis have a specific color pallete?

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