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Libbyty2
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@es_luca_official, my newest account, contains my penname, which is E.S. Luca (btw new book releasing soon)

also usernames could benefit from this!

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@mike.marc will not be happy if they see this…

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Libbyty2
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8to16 wrote:

@mike.marc will not be happy if they see this…
hmm…

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Scratchedbyyou_alt
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Allow periods in usernames

The reason that periods aren't allowed in usernames is because of how urls work, a period could mess up the link, which is why the only symbols allowed are the ones that don't break anything like - _

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Allow periods in usernames

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

The reason that periods aren't allowed in usernames is because of how urls work, a period could mess up the link, which is why the only symbols allowed are the ones that don't break anything like - _
How would it mess up the link?

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Libbyty2 wrote:

@es_luca_official, my newest account, contains my penname, which is E.S. Luca (btw new book releasing soon)

also usernames could benefit from this!
it's not going to be that easy if they add that because then somebody could name themselves …………………………………………………… Which that won't be good
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Allow periods in usernames

mingo-gag wrote:

Libbyty2 wrote:

@es_luca_official, my newest account, contains my penname, which is E.S. Luca (btw new book releasing soon)

also usernames could benefit from this!
it's not going to be that easy if they add that because then somebody could name themselves …………………………………………………… Which that won't be good
there are already people who have named themselves stuff like -___—___

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Allow periods in usernames

GlitchedThrough wrote:

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

The reason that periods aren't allowed in usernames is because of how urls work, a period could mess up the link, which is why the only symbols allowed are the ones that don't break anything like - _
How would it mess up the link?
It wouldn't
“;” | “/” | “?” | “:” | “@” | “&” | “=” | “+” | “$” | “,” are the symbols that are reserved and CANNOT be used in URLs

“-” | “_” | “.” | “!” | “~” | “*” | “ ' ” | “(” | “)” are unreserved and can be used freely in URLs (You can see the period in there!)

“{” | "}“ | ”|“ | ”\“ | ”^“ | ”[“ | ”]“ | ”`" are the unwise set. Sometimes browsers have difficulty with them, but you could still technically have a working URL

Last edited by The-Sushi-Cat (Oct. 17, 2024 16:19:48)


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Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’
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mingo-gag wrote:

it's not going to be that easy if they add that because then somebody could name themselves …………………………………………………… Which that won't be good
Elaborate on how it won’t be good.

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mysinginmonsters
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Allow periods in usernames

The-Sushi-Cat wrote:

GlitchedThrough wrote:

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

The reason that periods aren't allowed in usernames is because of how urls work, a period could mess up the link, which is why the only symbols allowed are the ones that don't break anything like - _
How would it mess up the link?
It wouldn't
“;” | “/” | “?” | “:” | “@” | “&” | “=” | “+” | “$” | “,” are the symbols that are reserved and CANNOT be used in URLs

“-” | “_” | “.” | “!” | “~” | “*” | “ ' ” | “(” | “)” are unreserved and can be used freely in URLs (You can see the period in there!)

“{” | "}“ | ”|“ | ”\“ | ”^“ | ”[“ | ”]“ | ”`" are the unwise set. Sometimes browsers have difficulty with them, but you could still technically have a working URL

I think it does mess up the URL. Having a period would make it think that it's a domain ending. For example, the @mike.marc guy we were talking about has a 404 error if you try accessing their profile. Although I don't know if their account is removed

Edit: Actually it shouldn't mess it up because it comes after the slash. Perhaps it could mess up something back-end that we wouldn't know? Either way, periods aren't really needed in username.

Last edited by mysinginmonsters (Oct. 17, 2024 19:11:50)


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8to16
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Allow periods in usernames

mysinginmonsters wrote:

I think it does mess up the URL. Having a period would make it think that it's a domain ending. For example, the @mike.marc guy we were talking about has a 404 error if you try accessing their profile. Although I don't know if their account is removed
You can see parts of their profile through the api which i linked in #2

Also it stops getting the domain name after a / character else downloading files from the web like not-a-virus.exe would literally be impossible

Last edited by 8to16 (Oct. 17, 2024 19:14:40)


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GamesReinvented
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Allow periods in usernames

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

The reason that periods aren't allowed in usernames is because of how urls work, a period could mess up the link, which is why the only symbols allowed are the ones that don't break anything like - _
It wouldn't mess up links, links can contain “.”s, but it would mess up @'s, making them also have to fix that, as if you try to type @mike.marc in the comment sections, it only gives @mike.

Last edited by GamesReinvented (Oct. 17, 2024 19:27:33)


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Allow periods in usernames

mysinginmonsters wrote:

I think it does mess up the URL. Having a period would make it think that it's a domain ending. For example, the @mike.marc guy we were talking about has a 404 error if you try accessing their profile. Although I don't know if their account is removed
If you had an invalid URL you wouldn't be getting a 404 error, you'd be getting a different page altogether (which in Scratch's case usually throws a 403).

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The-Sushi-Cat
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mysinginmonsters wrote:

Edit: Actually it shouldn't mess it up because it comes after the slash. Perhaps it could mess up something back-end that we wouldn't know? Either way, periods aren't really needed in username.

Yeah technically a lot of the stuff on Scratch isn't needed. But it's here anyway. It allows for more expression. We don't really need that, but some obviously want it

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I took a break from the forums because it did a number on my mental health and made me consider some not so good choices. I came back because I thought I was ready, but I feel like I can still barely handle it, even with staying away from most drama hotspots…

I don't know if I made the right choice

Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’
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Allow periods in usernames

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

It wouldn't
“;” | “/” | “?” | “:” | “@” | “&” | “=” | “+” | “$” | “,” are the symbols that are reserved and CANNOT be used in URLs

“-” | “_” | “.” | “!” | “~” | “*” | “ ' ” | “(” | “)” are unreserved and can be used freely in URLs (You can see the period in there!)

“{” | "}“ | ”|“ | ”\“ | ”^“ | ”[“ | ”]“ | ”`" are the unwise set. Sometimes browsers have difficulty with them, but you could still technically have a working URL
What if Scratch used everyone's user ID instead of people's usernames for a profile URL?

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Allow periods in usernames

-striped wrote:

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

It wouldn't
“;” | “/” | “?” | “:” | “@” | “&” | “=” | “+” | “$” | “,” are the symbols that are reserved and CANNOT be used in URLs

“-” | “_” | “.” | “!” | “~” | “*” | “ ' ” | “(” | “)” are unreserved and can be used freely in URLs (You can see the period in there!)

“{” | "}“ | ”|“ | ”\“ | ”^“ | ”[“ | ”]“ | ”`" are the unwise set. Sometimes browsers have difficulty with them, but you could still technically have a working URL
What if Scratch used everyone's user ID instead of people's usernames for a profile URL?
yeah but that would break the @Example feature

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-striped wrote:

Scratchedbyyou_alt wrote:

It wouldn't
“;” | “/” | “?” | “:” | “@” | “&” | “=” | “+” | “$” | “,” are the symbols that are reserved and CANNOT be used in URLs

“-” | “_” | “.” | “!” | “~” | “*” | “ ' ” | “(” | “)” are unreserved and can be used freely in URLs (You can see the period in there!)

“{” | "}“ | ”|“ | ”\“ | ”^“ | ”[“ | ”]“ | ”`" are the unwise set. Sometimes browsers have difficulty with them, but you could still technically have a working URL
What if Scratch used everyone's user ID instead of people's usernames for a profile URL?

Yeah but they don't need to. You can have a period in a link

Last edited by The-Sushi-Cat (Oct. 17, 2024 23:38:50)


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I took a break from the forums because it did a number on my mental health and made me consider some not so good choices. I came back because I thought I was ready, but I feel like I can still barely handle it, even with staying away from most drama hotspots…

I don't know if I made the right choice

Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’
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BigNate469 wrote:

If you had an invalid URL you wouldn't be getting a 404 error, you'd be getting a different page altogether (which in Scratch's case usually throws a 403).

404 error means invalid URL, or page not found. 403 error means that the page exists but you are not allowed to access the page.

Example: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxy.canberra.edu.au/ienrivonev throws a 404 error, while https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxy.canberra.edu.au/educators/classes/ throws a 403 error (unless you're a teacher)

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imagine @mike.mark secretly made this suggestion,

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