creeperyeettt wrote:

(#1728)
bump
we exist still

I dont know what a github pull req is, but can we make one for controllers? or does the ST have to do that

(circle) 

^‿^ // Blockly (who protects my siggy) think it's a great idea too! (^..^)

Candy_lime wrote:

This is dead but ima reply anyway.

This would be useful, especially for those on Mobile who have Consoles.
And Playstation and Xbox both have browsers that can access Scratch.

Candy_lime wrote:

This is dead but ima reply anyway.

This would be useful, especially for those on Mobile who have Consoles.
And Playstation and Xbox both have browsers that can access Scratch.

creeperyeettt wrote:

(#1733)
@robotchickens you down to make a updated version of the blocks maybe?

SArpnt wrote:

Scratch has a lot of extensions for things like lego, makey makey, generally some strange input types that aren't usable for a lot of projects.
adding support for controllers would help lots of projects, especially ones that work well with analog input, like driving games,

when button [a v] pressed :: extension hat // buttons include ABXY, dpad, L, R, L1, R1, L2, R2, L stick, R stick (analog sticks can be clicked down on some controllers)
// this could also have blocks dropped in as an input, just like you can for key pressed blocks.
// when dropping in blocks, it could take the button number ids, meaning that even unsupported controllers could work (to an extent)

when [L2 v] distance [= v] (100) % :: extension hat // input options are triggers and all stick movement (shown on next blocks)
// this block could also have blocks dropped in and take axis ids, just like the button blocks.

[normal v] rumble for (1) secs until done :: extension stack // different rumble strengths

[normal v] rumble for (1) secs :: extension stack // doesn't pause script to rumble

[normal v] rumble :: extension stack // just keeps rumbling until stopped

stop rumble :: extension stack

<button [a v] pressed? :: extension> // (can drop in blocks, like above)

([left v] stick x :: extension)

([left v] stick y :: extension)

([left v] stick direction :: extension)

([left v] stick distance :: extension) // how far the stick is from the center

([L2 v] distance :: extension) // how far the trigger is pushed down (can drop in blocks, like above)

triggers are LT, RT, L2, R2, or ZL, ZR. note that switch controllers (if they get support) just have triggers (ZL and ZR) be at either 0% or 100% since they aren't analog.
if possible, it would change these depending on the controller currently connected, but if it can't, it could just use positions for ABXY (like the switch does for single joycons), and just use L1/L2 (there's only 2 of them, anyone can figure out which is which easily just by trying it)

another thing that could be done is adding support for multiple controllers, for thigns like multiple players. with would modify the blocks to add player numbers from 1-4 (this would be the same as the player indicator on the controller) and add these blocks.

when player [1 v] connected :: extension hat

when player [1 v] disconnected :: extension hat

<player [1 v] connected? :: extension>

multiple controllers should probably be a togglable option (if added) because it does make things much more complicated.

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creeperyeettt wrote:

(#1737)

SArpnt wrote:

-SNIP-

this is also very good, but i feel like tilting controllers (nintendo and PlayStation and maybe your mobile device) would be cool

RobotChickens wrote:

creeperyeettt wrote:

(#1737)

SArpnt wrote:

-SNIP-

this is also very good, but i feel like tilting controllers (nintendo and PlayStation and maybe your mobile device) would be cool

Please don't quote the OP

I'm not sure if gyro would be included in this sugestion. That would add complexity, and also weird mobile stuff that will slow down getting this implemented.

(Tilt?)

WolfCat67 wrote:

Support. USB controllers would be a great inclusion for Scratch, and having them as an extension will definitely not confuse new users viewing the site for the first time (as it will be hidden). However, I don't agree with some of the wording here, specifically the use of “trigger”. Remember that only Xbox controllers refer to the top buttons as triggers, whereas on PlayStation it is L2 / R2 and with Nintendo it's ZL / ZR. Instead, have it simply replaced with L, R, L2, R2. This is possibly the most simple to understand with most people when looking at a controller. When a controller is plugged in, perhaps the name could change based on what controller it is.

MicrosoftWindows8 wrote:

(#1740)

WolfCat67 wrote:

Support. USB controllers would be a great inclusion for Scratch, and having them as an extension will definitely not confuse new users viewing the site for the first time (as it will be hidden). However, I don't agree with some of the wording here, specifically the use of “trigger”. Remember that only Xbox controllers refer to the top buttons as triggers, whereas on PlayStation it is L2 / R2 and with Nintendo it's ZL / ZR. Instead, have it simply replaced with L, R, L2, R2. This is possibly the most simple to understand with most people when looking at a controller. When a controller is plugged in, perhaps the name could change based on what controller it is.

I have one problem. Some controllers (like an Xbox One S controller) have sticks that you can push down, and that would be confusing. Maybe just have them called triggers and shoulder buttons?

RobotChickens wrote:

MicrosoftWindows8 wrote:

(#1740)

WolfCat67 wrote:

Support. USB controllers would be a great inclusion for Scratch, and having them as an extension will definitely not confuse new users viewing the site for the first time (as it will be hidden). However, I don't agree with some of the wording here, specifically the use of “trigger”. Remember that only Xbox controllers refer to the top buttons as triggers, whereas on PlayStation it is L2 / R2 and with Nintendo it's ZL / ZR. Instead, have it simply replaced with L, R, L2, R2. This is possibly the most simple to understand with most people when looking at a controller. When a controller is plugged in, perhaps the name could change based on what controller it is.

I have one problem. Some controllers (like an Xbox One S controller) have sticks that you can push down, and that would be confusing. Maybe just have them called triggers and shoulder buttons?

Pushing the sticks down is one of the default outputs on all controllers that support it. When this gets added, that will be one of the inputs just like all the others.

I think the shoulder and trigger names are better because it isn't any confusing letters/numbers that are hard to remember, and it works with all controller brands.

MicrosoftWindows8 wrote:

(#1742)

RobotChickens wrote:

MicrosoftWindows8 wrote:

(#1740)

WolfCat67 wrote:

Support. USB controllers would be a great inclusion for Scratch, and having them as an extension will definitely not confuse new users viewing the site for the first time (as it will be hidden). However, I don't agree with some of the wording here, specifically the use of “trigger”. Remember that only Xbox controllers refer to the top buttons as triggers, whereas on PlayStation it is L2 / R2 and with Nintendo it's ZL / ZR. Instead, have it simply replaced with L, R, L2, R2. This is possibly the most simple to understand with most people when looking at a controller. When a controller is plugged in, perhaps the name could change based on what controller it is.

I have one problem. Some controllers (like an Xbox One S controller) have sticks that you can push down, and that would be confusing. Maybe just have them called triggers and shoulder buttons?

Pushing the sticks down is one of the default outputs on all controllers that support it. When this gets added, that will be one of the inputs just like all the others.

I think the shoulder and trigger names are better because it isn't any confusing letters/numbers that are hard to remember, and it works with all controller brands.

Maybe pushing down the sticks should be L-Stick and R-Stick?

RobotChickens wrote:

MicrosoftWindows8 wrote:

(#1742)

RobotChickens wrote:

MicrosoftWindows8 wrote:

(#1740)

WolfCat67snip?[/quote wrote:

L1 R1 are bumpers right
L2 R2 are triggers
L3 R3 are sticks <——– creeperyeett wrote this

i have to get better at snipping i dont know what i did