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Firewhale
Scratcher
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mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
OH NO
But then isn't telling the truth better than not telling the truth?
mattsmithdw2
Scratcher
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Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
OH NO
But then isn't telling the truth better than not telling the truth?
Not asking at all is better for us than anything… What they don't know can't hurt them. But telling the truth is good but not when it risks something you've been working on since MARCH!
GreatPhoenix
Scratcher
100+ posts

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mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
Well, the closest you can get to not being shut down is by sending the email. If you don't they have a huge chance of closing it down if it gets featured or whatever of some sort
Firewhale
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the former Pokemon Chaotic Flame and Pokemon Orderly Frost thread - Go to "The New CFOF General Thread"

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
OH NO
But then isn't telling the truth better than not telling the truth?
Not asking at all is better for us than anything… What they don't know can't hurt them. But telling the truth is good but not when it risks something you've been working on since MARCH!
You're right, but what if they take lying and not telling them earlier into consideration of shutting it down?
braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the former Pokemon Chaotic Flame and Pokemon Orderly Frost thread - Go to "The New CFOF General Thread"

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
OH NO
But then isn't telling the truth better than not telling the truth?
Not asking at all is better for us than anything… What they don't know can't hurt them. But telling the truth is good but not when it risks something you've been working on since MARCH!
Yes, but we have something going for us too: Creative Commons. As long as we use original content and original code only, the have no grounds to go after us.
Firewhale
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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braxbroscratcher wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
OH NO
But then isn't telling the truth better than not telling the truth?
Not asking at all is better for us than anything… What they don't know can't hurt them. But telling the truth is good but not when it risks something you've been working on since MARCH!
Yes, but we have something going for us too: Creative Commons. As long as we use original content and original code only, the have no grounds to go after us.
Does that mean we can't use original pokemon?
Saiid
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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Oh my god people, calm down. They haven't even responded, even though I sent the email several weeks ago.
Firewhale
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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Saiid wrote:

Oh my god people, calm down. They haven't even responded, even though I sent the email several weeks ago.
Oh.
braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
This would legally be read as ‘it is illegal to modify source assets or use them without the company’s consent.' They can't shut us down if we use only our own content. Meaning we make everything, same as them, we aren't violating their TOU.
braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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Firewhale wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
OH NO
But then isn't telling the truth better than not telling the truth?
Not asking at all is better for us than anything… What they don't know can't hurt them. But telling the truth is good but not when it risks something you've been working on since MARCH!
Yes, but we have something going for us too: Creative Commons. As long as we use original content and original code only, the have no grounds to go after us.
Does that mean we can't use original pokemon?
No, it means we have to only use what we make.
mattsmithdw2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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What do you see me as… I'm planning to change my avatar and banner, so I was wondering what to change it to!
Firewhale
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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mattsmithdw2 wrote:

What do you see me as… I'm planning to change my avatar and banner, so I was wondering what to change it to!
A normal guy named Matt Smith.
mattsmithdw2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the former Pokemon Chaotic Flame and Pokemon Orderly Frost thread - Go to "The New CFOF General Thread"

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

What do you see me as… I'm planning to change my avatar and banner, so I was wondering what to change it to!
A normal guy named Matt Smith.
): That's no fun
Firewhale
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the former Pokemon Chaotic Flame and Pokemon Orderly Frost thread - Go to "The New CFOF General Thread"

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

What do you see me as… I'm planning to change my avatar and banner, so I was wondering what to change it to!
A normal creative guy named Matt Smith who likes to draw and make art.
): That's no fun
mattsmithdw2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

What do you see me as… I'm planning to change my avatar and banner, so I was wondering what to change it to!
A normal creative guy named Matt Smith who likes to draw and make art.
): That's no fun
I like that one better!

I asked Paddle2See about our problem and he said:

Paddle2see wrote:

Well, I'm not a lawyer so I can't really advise you on that. It's best to use material that allows free use - or use your own material. However, if challenged by the owner of the copyright, you could probably claim that you were exercising your right to “fair use” given that this is an educational website and nobody is making any money here. See http://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html for more information.
Firewhale
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the former Pokemon Chaotic Flame and Pokemon Orderly Frost thread - Go to "The New CFOF General Thread"

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

Firewhale wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

What do you see me as… I'm planning to change my avatar and banner, so I was wondering what to change it to!
A normal creative guy named Matt Smith who likes to draw and make art.
): That's no fun
I like that one better!

I asked Paddle2See about our problem and he said:

Paddle2see wrote:

Well, I'm not a lawyer so I can't really advise you on that. It's best to use material that allows free use - or use your own material. However, if challenged by the owner of the copyright, you could probably claim that you were exercising your right to “fair use” given that this is an educational website and nobody is making any money here. See http://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html for more information.
Alright so according to Paddle2See we would be ok if we continued
GreatPhoenix
Scratcher
100+ posts

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braxbroscratcher wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
This would legally be read as ‘it is illegal to modify source assets or use them without the company’s consent.' They can't shut us down if we use only our own content. Meaning we make everything, same as them, we aren't violating their TOU.
You guys need to learn law XD.
We are modifying source assets to be fakemon, using the idea of pokemon. If they give us permission, we can use any content of theirs that they allow us to use + make fakemon if Nintendo agrees.)
btw, the company that owns pokemon is game freak (Nintendo holds a share but can't make major choices like copyright stuff since it probably doesn't hold more than 50% of the company
GreatPhoenix
Scratcher
100+ posts

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According to most sources, Nintendo only owns a 1/3 while 2 other companies own a 1/3 each in game freak*

*To not be confused with, Pokemon company, “The Pokémon Company is a Japanese company that is responsible for marketing and licensing the Pokémon franchise.” - Wikipedia

Last edited by GreatPhoenix (Sept. 4, 2016 16:38:27)

braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the former Pokemon Chaotic Flame and Pokemon Orderly Frost thread - Go to "The New CFOF General Thread"

GreatPhoenix wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

mattsmithdw2 wrote:

I read Pokemons Terms of Use
“-5. User Rights and Restrictions, in no instance may you:
(ii) Modify, or create derived works based on”
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN! DON'T SEND THE EMAIL, THEN THEY KNOW!
This would legally be read as ‘it is illegal to modify source assets or use them without the company’s consent.' They can't shut us down if we use only our own content. Meaning we make everything, same as them, we aren't violating their TOU.
You guys need to learn law XD.
We are modifying source assets to be fakemon, using the idea of pokemon. If they give us permission, we can use any content of theirs that they allow us to use + make fakemon if Nintendo agrees.)
btw, the company that owns pokemon is game freak (Nintendo holds a share but can't make major choices like copyright stuff since it probably doesn't hold more than 50% of the company
Pokemon is split equally across three companies if I recall.
braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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GreatPhoenix wrote:

According to most sources, Nintendo only owns a 1/3 while 2 other companies own a 1/3 each in game freak*

*To not be confused with, Pokemon company, “The Pokémon Company is a Japanese company that is responsible for marketing and licensing the Pokémon franchise.” - Wikipedia
Yea. Also, in this case, source assets would mean things from the Pokemon games themselves.

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